Milne, Roy

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Fullname: Robert Milne
aka: Roy Milne, Shammy Feet, Cowboy
Born: 27 April 1921
Died: 29 June 1998 at Stockport
Birthplace: Camelon, Scotland
Signed: 1 Nov 1940 (from Polkemmet Juniors)
Left: Aug 1941 (RAF); May 1952 (free); New York Americans (Sep 1952)
Position: Defender, Left-back
Debut: Celtic 2-0 Morton, Regional League, 30 Nov 1940
Internationals: USA
International Caps: 1

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The happiest a man could have“.
Roy Milne on his 12 years at Celtic

Defender Roy Milne was signed in November 1940 from Polkemmet Juniors, manager Jimmy McStay’s first signing.

He would make his debut on the 30th of that month in a 2-0 Regional League victory at home to Morton. However, Celtic were a poor shadow of what they at once were, and the war years was the nadir for the club, with every player suffering in this era due to the mismanagement by the board both on & off-field, let alone with respect to issues outwith the club.

A composed and gifted left-back Roy Milne’s career was interrupted by his service in the war (serving most of his time in India), and was not to play again for Celtic after 1941 until the end of 1945.

After his spell in the RAF he returned an arguably inferior player but one who always gave his all to the Celtic cause and still played a great number of games for the club. Despite his return, the first team remained poorly managed both at team and board level, even after the change in team management from Jimmy McStay to Jimmy McGrory, and the club remained in the doldrums.

His nickname of ‘Shammy Feet‘ is explained by a peculiar shuffling style he had. He also was nicknamed by the fans as ”Cowboy” after the American star Roy Rodgers.

It wasn’t until season 1949-50 that Roy Milne finally won his only notable medal with the club, in a 3-2 victory over Rangers in the Glasgow Charity Cup (a match attended by Hollywood star Danny Kaye). Actually this was to be his last game for the first team, and so was a fitting way to end his time in the First Team.

After all the woes of the era, he deserved something, but like Jimmy Mallan, he won no major silverware with Celtic despite the long service with the club. Thankfully for himself, he missed out on playing for the First Team during the nightmare season of 1947-48 when Celtic came perilously close to relegation.

By a quirk of poor fate, when Celtic embarked on their successful quest for the 1951 Scottish Cup – beating a strong Motherwell team in the final 1-0 courtesy of a John McPhail goal – Roy Milne was on the injured list.

In retrospect, Roy Milne was very unfortunate that his spell with the club was throughout what was probably the poorest time for the club. Who can now know how he may have fared if he was with in a more able Celtic side? Despite this, he described the 12 years at Celtic as: “the happiest a man could have“.

In total, Roy Milne played 166 league & Scottish Cup games for the Bhoys before being released in May 1952. Another of those select few with the curious fact that despite having played over a century of senior competitive matches for the club they never once scored a single goal.

He moved to the United States, where Roy Milne was influential in the formation of the early American Soccer leagues. This included managing the wonderfully name ‘United Scots of Beverly Hills‘.

During his time in the United States, he signed with the New York Americans of the American Soccer League. In 1954, the Americans won the 1954 National Challenge Cup. In 1955, he and his wife moved to California where he played for the Los Angeles Danish-Americans. By the late 1950s, Milne was with the amateur McIlvaine Canvasbacks of the Los Angeles League. In 1959, Roy Milne and his teammates won the 1959 National Challenge Cup.

While playing for the New York Americans, he even represented the United States in an international friendly against England (he was erroneously named as ‘Ray Milne‘). Among the ‘greats’ he played against at this time were Stanley Matthews and Tom Finney. The US side lost 6-3 on 8 June 1953.

However, Roy Milne never forgot Celtic and he returned to Scotland as often as possible to see them play. He formed the California Celtic Supporters Club and started a boys team called the Wee Celtic for the under-privileged.

He also ran a side called ‘Thistle‘ who were to be hosts to Celtic on a tour to the US.

In 1971, he helped organise in San Francisco a cabaret dance in benefit & aid of the Ibrox disaster fund, with Celtic Song legend Glen Daly as host.

He and his wife later returned back to Scotland and ran the Johnstone Arms hotel, and then spent some time in retirement in Spain.

There is a CSC in Alva (Scotland) named after him, Roy Milne CSC.

He passed away on 29 June 1998.

Anecdote

1) Roy’s daughter Joi once was trying to get some tickets for a game at Parkhead, and used his name to get some leverage with team manager Jock Stein.
“Hi, I’m Roy Milne’s daughter” she said.
Jock Stein jokingly replied: “Are you bragging or complaining?”

Playing Career

APPEARANCES LEAGUE SCOTTISH CUP LEAGUE CUP EUROPE REGIONAL LEAGUE
REGIONAL LEAGUE CUP
TOTAL
1940-52 108 5 20 n/a 24 9 166
Goals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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A studied calm defender, Roy Milne first got his chance for Celtic when Joe McCulloch was called in to play for the Scottish Army against the English (1-4) on St Andrew’s Day 1940.

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Two weeks later “Milne can be claimed as a discovery”.

Roy played in the 2-3 Ne’erday win at Ibrox in 1941 and quickly developed into Celtic’s lucky mascot.

With ‘Shammy Feet’ in the team Celtic went nine matches undefeated until Hibs won 2-0 in Edinburgh on February 1st 1941.

Roy served in India throughout the war (Celtic Sailors John Rae and Willie Corbett met him in Bombay) and after September 20th 1941 did not re-appear for Celtic until December 29th 1945 when his game was no longer so cool.

He was moved to left half as of November 16th 1946 but inclined to play wing half like a full back, “too prone to biff the ball up-field and hope for the best.”

On October 18th 1947 the famous alliteration of Miller, Mallan and Milne lined-up for the first time in the Celtic rearguard. Roy was at right-back by ne’erday 1949 and after the 4-0 skinning at Ibrox was dropped for Alec Boden. His last game for Celtic was at Ibrox again on ne’erday two years later.

He went down with the flu and Alex Rollo became Celtic’s left-back as of January 6th. Roy went on the US tour of 1951 but no longer figured in Celtic’s plans.

He described his twelve years on the Parkhead books as “the happiest a man could have.”

His nickname is explained by a peculiar shuffling style he had. He lives in retirement in Spain. There is a Celtic Supporters’ Club in Alva named for him.

 

Tribute from The Alloa Advertiser

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Thursday 9th July 1998 Ian Fitzgerald
Former Celtic mid-fielder Roy Milne, who ran the Johnstone Arms Hotel in Alva on his retiral from football, has died in Stockport following a long illness, aged 77.

Roy, without doubt one of the best liked hoteliers in Central Region, was extremely popular by everyone he knew.

After his playing career finished at Parkhead, he moved into Alva to run the Johnstone Arms where he gave his full backing to the football club on a Sunday, and to the Celtic Supporters Club, to which he gave his name.

One of the players who was in the Johnstone team in the mid 1970’s – George Law of Fishcross said this week, “Roy was one of nature’s gentlemen, liked by everybody. He was always fully behind our football team and his words before a game were usually, ‘Go out there and play silky soccer’.”

George, who now runs a bookmakers in Alva added, “I remember playing in a charity game at Greenhead Park and Roy came out of his retirement to play. His class still showed. He was a quiet, unassuming man who never talked about his Celtic career because he was a modest chap.”

Before taking charge of the Johnstone Arms, Roy had carved out a footballing career for himself both here and in America. He joined Celtic in 1940 from Polkemot Juniors to be manager Jimmy McStay’s first signing.

Roy enjoyed the company at Parkhead of such well known names as Tommy Docherty, Willie Fernie, Charlie Tully, Bobby Colins, Sean Fallon and his great friend Alex Devanney, the Celtic and Alloa Goalkeeper.

By quirk of fate, when Celtic embarked on their successful quest for the 1951 Scottish Cup – beating a strong Motherwell team 1-0 by courtesy of a John McPhail goal – Roy was on the injured list.

It was in season 1949-50 that Roy won his only major medal with the club, in a 3-2 victory over Rangers in the Glasgow Charity Cup.

Released by Celtic in 1952, Roy and his wife Cis moved to California, where Roy was influential in the formation of the early American Soccer leagues.

When a young Jock Stein took Celtic to America in 1966, for a pre-season tour, it was Roy and Cis who hosted their welcome. Cis recalled at a later date, “My main problem was finding a Scottish Pipe Band in California, but I got one.”

In 1973 Roy and his wife returned to Scotland, took over the tenancy of the Johnstone Arms and in the process made many lifelong friends.

Of an affable nature, Roy was extremely pleasant and approachable.

Perhaps it is appropriate in the week leading up to the Alva Games that we should especially think of Roy for his generosity and kindness. He and Cis were sponsors to the Games five-a-side competition and were constant attendees to present the prizes.

Roy Milne

Roy Milne, footballer; born April 27, 1921, died June 29, 1998
Roy Milne, who has died aged 77, was signed by Celtic in 1940.It was Roy’s dream come true to join Celtic, as he had always admired their style of play. It was not long before the fans had nicknamed him ”Cowboy” after the American star Roy Rodgers.

Born and educated in Falkirk, he started his footballing career with Dunipace Thistle. From there, after a particularly successful spell, he went to Polkemmet Juniors for three months, before joining Celtic, aged 19.

He played in the defensive position of left back, but he was renowned during his playing career for his ability to play with both feet. He played behind some famous half backs – Pat McAuley, Tommy Docherty, Willie Fernie, Bertie Peacock and John McPhail. He appreciated the great skills of Charlie Tully.

During the war, he was called up for service in the RAF and drafted to India, where he was one of a party of professional players chosen to play for the Combined Services team in India, Burma and Ceylon, such as Tommy Walker and John Harvey, of Hearts, and Denis Compton, to name but a few.

In 1950 he travelled with Celtic to play Lazio in Rome, and in 1951 he went on tour to Canada and America, where he was most impressed with the American way of life. In 1952 he was given a free transfer. The United States team came to play Scotland at Hampden Park and the manager invited Roy to lunch, setting up a move to New York.

While playing for the New York Americans he represented the United States in many internationals, including matches against England. Among the ”greats” he played against at this time were Stanley Matthews and Tom Finney.

After three years he moved to California to play for The Danes and other teams. Twice he was on the winning side in the US National Cup – once in New York, and also in California, where he played with Billy Steel for several seasons.

Eventually Roy went into management, his last team being the United Scots, owned by a Beverly Hills restaurateur and sponsored by a number of movie personalities. They had the temerity to invite and play the great Real Madrid side of the 1960s.

During his years in America, Roy never forgot Celtic and he returned to Scotland as often as possible to see them play. He formed the California Celtic Supporters Club and started a boys team called the Wee Celtic for the under-privileged.

In 1973, he and his wife returned to Scotland and bought a hotel in Alva, which they ran until retirement in 1985. The Roy Milne Celtic Supporters Club is still going strong in the Hillfoots area of Clackmannanshire. Roy is survived by his wife, a daughter and two grandchildren. Before his long illness he enjoyed many happy years of retirement in Majorca.