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Fullname: James Frederick McStay
aka: Jimmy McStay
Born: 1 April 1895
Died: 31st December 1973 at Stonehouse Hospital (Death Registered on 3rd January 1974)
Birthplace: Netherburn, Dalserf, Scotland
Signed: 13 November 1920; May 1936 (loan)
Left: 1934 (free); 28 Sep 1934 (Hamilton Academical)
Position: Left-back
Debut: Clyde 0-1 Celtic, League, 4 Nov 1922
Internationals: Scotland
International Caps: 13 (5 as captain)
International Goals: 0
Manager: 19 February 1940 - 23 July 1945

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Quiet man Jimmy McStay signed for the Bhoys in November 1920 from the Royal Scots Fusiliers.

The former Larkhall Thistle man made his debut in a 1-0 league victory at Clyde in November 1922. But it took McStay a little while to settle in at Celtic Park and his early performances as a left-half did not endear himself to the support or the directors.

Jimmy’s distribution to his forwards was initially poor and he displayed a tendency to give the ball away far too cheaply. The younger brother of Hoops hero Willie, McStay’s future at the club was seriously in doubt when in February 1924 Willie Maley decided to give the player a run out as centre-half.

Maley’s instinct that Jimmy would make a more than useful defender was proved right. McStay took to his new position like a natural and before long he had gone from being on the verge of a free transfer to becoming a vital member of the team.

McStay quickly established himself as the very heart of the Celtic defence. His no nonsense approach to his job made Jimmy one of the most effective defenders in the game. He was not flashy but he did the simple things very well and he became a model of consistency with a string of excellent performances.

Although not overtly physical, no forward relished coming up against McStay because they knew the Celtic man would give them little opportunity to flourish. He read the game well and time after time he would simply win the ball before clearing his lines.

A generally reserved character Jimmy liked to lead by example and his regular thwarting of some of the finest attacking talents in the game often inspired both team-mates and the support. There were few as dependable as McStay and he seldom, if ever, let his beloved club down.

He succeeded his brother Willie as Bhoys skipper in 1929.and his assured ways helped guide the Celts to Scottish Cup glory in April 1931.

In November of that year, as captain of the Scottish League, McStay led his side to a famous 4-3 victory over their English counterparts at Celtic Park in a match where Everton’s legendary forward Dixie Deans was marked out of the contest by a brilliant performance from the Celtic man.

He may not have been the most flamboyant of characters but Jimmy McStay’s devotion and contribution to the Celtic cause was immense. He was eventually freed by the club in 1934 and went on to join Hamilton Academical. By then Jimmy - the great uncle of Paul, Willie and Raymond McStay - had made 472 appearance for the Hoops and scored 8 goals.

A great member of a fine Celtic dynasty.

[...biog needs heavily expanded... nearly 500 games but too short a biog...]

Playing Career

APPEARANCES LEAGUE SCOTTISH CUP LEAGUE CUP EUROPE TOTAL
1920-193440963--472
Goals62--8

Honours at Celtic as a player

Scottish League
Scottish Cup (needs checked)

Manager : 1940 - 1945

Jimmy McStayMcStay took up his appointment as manager on 19 February 1940, and was dismissed on 23 July 1945.

Willie Maley at the grand age of 72(!) was relieved of his post as manager after 51 years, and in his place ex-player Jimmy McStay was brought in as manager in 1940, and remained as manager throughout the war years.

On leaving Alloa to take up the post, the vice-president of Alloa said:
“He is a man in a thousand. At Alloa he has had our complete confidence right from the beginning. He picked the team himself, and was never subjected to any interference in his work from the Board”.

Sadly for Jimmy McStay that was not to be replicated for him at Celtic. Willie Maley was a much more cantankerous figure so the board was less able to push their weight around with him. However, Jimmy McStay was a more gentlemanly character, possibly too decent for the role, and this allowed the Board unlimited levels of interference. Maybe that's a main reason why they hired him.

Bob Kelly, Celtic director and later chairman, later disparagingly commented on Jimmy McStay that he was in effect a “part-time manager” and that Jimmy McGrory was really ear-marked for the role. A very disparaging remark from a man who should have known better.

The situation meant that the war years were to be amongst the most barren in our history. Celtic had held out well during the First World War, but during the Second World War years we were seriously abject. Celtic’s record saw us even finish 13th and 9th in the league in two of the seasons. It must be noted that this was in a truncated league set-up, with the league split into a separate Southern league (with Celtic, Rangers etc) and a Northern league (Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, etc). We won only two trophies, the Glasgow Cup and the Charity Cup, hardly difficult competitions and against limited opposition.

However, if McStay wasn’t in full control then what could he possibly have done? It was not an easy time. The war effort meant that Celtic had lost many good men (staff and players) to the war effort by choice or the call-up. Some good players even left to move to other clubs, exasperated by our own club's management. In the previous war, the authorities allowed the clubs to retain some players to enable them to continue to help bolster the public's morale. Celtic took advantage and this helped to maintain the standing of the club whilst assisting those who were suffering from lost family to the war effort. This time, the board were not taking their position seriously, and allowed the club to flounder, albeit that the authorities weren't assisting us similarly as they did previously.

Rangers were at their most dominant in this period (aided by various sympathetic/biased authorities and industries), and McStay wasn’t a man able to tackle that situation with the more limited resources at hand.

Not all was bad, and one thing that Jimmy McStay can be proud of is the finding of a few great youngsters in difficult circumstances; Willie Miller, John McPhail and Bobby Evans owe a lot to Jimmy McStay.

The end was made as humiliating by the board for McStay as much as it was throughout his whole tenure as manager. He was made to unfairly carry the whole burden of Celtic’s decline, and at the end of the war he was dismissed in preference for Jimmy McGrory by the board. Disgracefully he found out about his dismissal through the press whilst on holiday and not directly from the board. It was perfectly illustrative of the incompetence and mismanagement by the board.

A great old stalwart like Jimmy McStay deserved better treatment. He may not have ended up being the right man for the job (although his stint at Alloa showed he did have good managerial capabilities), yet if he wasn’t fully responsible for team selection then shouldn’t those others responsible have also stepped down or be accounted for the club's performance (e.g. the board)?

At the end, Jimmy McStay summarised his time at Celtic as succinctly as well as he could: “Celtic policy was not moulded to suit my requirements. Rather my plans had to suit the Celtic requirements,” and in that last line it was clear that he was referring to the directors, a final dig at them. A surprisingly frank comment from a generally docile gentleman.

An irony is that another member of his illustrious family (Paul McStay in 1990’s) had to later work under the same level of incompetence of board management as himself. Thankfully, in Paul McStay’s case, he came out on top against that set of board directors.

Jimmy McStay later managed Hamilton Academical between 1946 and 1951.

He died in 1974 and is buried in Larkhall Cemetery. He will forever be fondly remembered.


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HenryClarson Date of Jimmy's death. 1 Aug 17 2010, 2:43 AM EDT by joebloggscity
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I see that Wikipedia gives the date of Jimmy's death as 1952 (although the source it links to is KDS...)
Is there a good source for 1974?
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