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PersonalFullname: Charles Shaw
aka: Charlie Shaw
Born: 21 Sep 1885
Died: 27 Mar 1938
Birthplace: Twechar (East Dunbartonshire, Scotland)
Died: 27 Mar 1938, New York
Signed: 2 May 1913 (from QPR)
Left: 6 June 1925 (to New Bedford FC (USA))
Debut: Third Lanark 1-2 Celtic, Charity Cup, 6 May 1913
Internationals: Scotland / Scottish Football League
International Caps: 0 / 3
International Goals: 0 / 0
BiogStanding at just five foot and six inches goalkeepers don’t come much smaller than the magnificent Charlie Shaw, but few others can stand as tall in stature.
Signed from Queen’s Park Rangers in May 1913 for £250, what the Twechar-born custodian lacked in height he made up for in his peerless ability. For QPR alone he played 223 games missing only three, and on a return to London when Celtic played West Ham in a charity game the Londoners remembered him fondly and they burst into applause for him as he entered the pitch. For Celtic he was even greater and a stalwart for many a year.
Shaw made his debut for the Bhoys in a 2-1 Glasgow Charity Cup win at Third Lanark on May 6th that year and it did not take long for the wonderfully gifted keeper to win a place in the hearts of the Celtic support.
With the fragile looking Shaw in goals Celtic’s defensive record improved dramatically as their brave and athletic keeper pulled off one breathtakingly sublime save after another. But Shaw also had the intelligence to match his athleticism. As a measure of his ability, in the 1913/14 season remarkably he lost only 14 goals in 38 games with 26 shut-outs along the away. A record for Celtic to this day.
An amazing fact is that it is estimated that from 13th Dec 1913 that he and his defence did not concede a goal for a mind-boggling 1287 minutes! The duck was broken on 28th Feb 1914 when Falkirk at home defeated Celtic 1-0. Incredible achievement! This was a UK record then and lasted for a long time.
He was an excellent reader of the game and he developed a great understanding with Alec McNair and his other defenders. "Get it back tae Charlie!" was a common call.
According to legendary Celtic manager Willie Maley:
"Shaw, McNair and Dodds understood one another so well that they developed the pass-back into a scientific move of which there have been many imitators but none to equal the originators. It was indeed a spectacle to see either McNair or Dodds passing, with unerring accuracy and cheeky coolness, the ball to Shaw two yards away, with the opposing forwards almost on top of them. That was their method of getting out of a corner, which in all probability would otherwise have been fatal." (Weekly News 25 July 1936)
He became Celtic captain in September 1916 following "Sunny" Jim Young's retirement (1916) and his commanding voice was heard throughout games offering encouragement and instructions to his team-mates. The captaincy even to today is a rare honour gifted to a goalkeeper and is a measure of how highly thought of he was by his peers and coaches.
Notably, the fans at one game in 1922 were singing his name and praises to him, which is said to have struck one reporter as an "extraordinary stupid idea" to sing for a goalkeeper. It reflected more just how out of touch that journalist was, and also his clear lack of knowledge of Shaw and his reputation & achievements.
Charlie Shaw was also vocal off the pitch and his criticism of the low wages many footballers were paid did not go down well among the affluent and influential in the Parkhead boardroom. This likely stemmed from his background coming from Twechar (a small mining village as was commonly dotted around Scotland in those days). It is a wonderful measure of the man that despite his sporting prowess and lauded position that he could still fight for proper terms & conditions that he and his peers had to work within. While some Celtic directors may not have appreciated Shaw and his comments, the supporters most likely certainly did.
He was an immensely popular figure who was not only one of the finest keepers in the game but also a true Celtic man who clearly loved the club he served so well. After a spell on loan at Clyde, Shaw was released in the summer of 1925. He had played 436 games for Celtic, amassing 240 clean sheets. He had won six league titles (1914-1917, 1919 and 1922) and two Scottish Cups (1914 and 1923).
He moved across the Atlantic to the US where he played for New Bedford Whalers FC, the leading football side in the US and became their player/manager. He later took over some Celts with him including Andy McAtee.
He died of pneumonia in New York in 1938, a much missed man.
Charlie Shaw is a Celtic great, and regarded as one of our finest goalkeepers.
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Honours with CelticScottish League Championship
UK Record for duration without conceding a goal!
One of Charles Shaw greatest achievements was that he went 1287 minutes in all competitions without conceding a goal!
The set of matches are as follows:
- Raith Rovers 1-2 Celtic, League, Sat 13 Dec 1913
- Raith Rovers scored sometime in the first half, so Shaw went at least 45mins of this game without conceding, he then went the following games (minutes) without conceding
- Celtic 0-0 Motherwell, League, Sat 20 Dec 1913 90mins
- Ayr United 0-6 Celtic, League, Sat 27 Dec 1913 90mins
- Celtic 4-0 Rangers, League, Thu 01 Jan 1914 90mins
- Partick Thistle 0-0 Celtic, League, Sat 03 Jan 1914 90mins
- Clyde 0-1 Celtic, League, Mon 05 Jan 1914 90mins
- Celtic 4-0 Dumbarton, League, Sat 10 Jan 1914 90mins
- Dundee 0-1 Celtic, League, Sat 17 Jan 1914 90mins
- Celtic 1-0 Airdrieonians, League, Sat 24 Jan 1914 90mins
- St Mirren 0-3 Celtic, League, Sat 31 Jan 1914 90mins
- Clyde 0-0 Celtic, Scottish Cup, Sat 07 Feb 1914 90mins
- Celtic 2-0 Clyde, Scottish Cup, Tue 10 Feb 1914 90mins
- Celtic 3-0 Greenock Morton, League, Sat 14 Feb 1914 90mins
- Forfar Athletic 0-5 Celtic, Scottish Cup, Sat 21 Feb 1914 90mins
- Falkirk 1-0 Celtic League Sat 28 Feb 1914 45
- Finally conceded against Falkirk
Net, that accumulates to an overall total of AT LEAST 1,260 minutes.
Even more outstanding, is that until Raith had scored against him (in the match on 13 Dec 1913) he had gone the following games since playing Aberdeen on 4th Oct 1913 (who scored in the 2nd minute in that match) without conceding and about 900mins.
- Celtic 2-1 Aberdeen League Sat 04 Oct 1913 88mins
- Aberdeen 0-1 Celtic League Sat 11 Oct 1913 90mins
- Celtic 1-0 Dundee League Sat 18 Oct 1913 90mins
- Rangers 0-2 Celtic League Sat 25 Oct 1913 90mins
- Celtic 4-0 Kilmarnock League Sat 01 Nov 1913 90mins
- Queen's Park 0-2 Celtic League Sat 08 Nov 1913 90mins
- Dumbarton 0-4 Celtic League Sat 15 Nov 1913 90mins
- Celtic 1-0 Hamilton League Sat 22 Nov 1913 90mins
- Airdrieonians 0-1 Celtic League Sat 29 Nov 1913 90mins
- Celtic 3-0 Third Lanark League Sat 06 Dec 1913 90mins
If only Raith hadn't scored (but they did), he would have went at least 2,203 mins in all comps and 1,933 mins in the league without conceding!!!
If we take it as a consecutive game record (overall) add the 3 cup games included = 270, onto 900 = 1,170 for Shaw, 26 minutes short of Chris Woods (Rangers).
However, add the second half of the game before the record started and the first half of the game the record stopped (which is fair as this was the method used to measure Woods/Van der Sar) then Shaw has at the very least 1,260mins is a Scottish record we are certain.
However, from our records:
- Raith Rovers scored in the 24th minute against Celtic on 13th December 1913
- Falkirk scored in the 51st minute against Celtic on 28th February 1914
So we have a net estimated figure of 1,287 minutes without conceding in the league or cup! Exceeding Chris Woods!
Van der Sar (Chelsea) went 1,311 minutes in total and holds the British record to time of writing, his run was ended ironically by an ex-Rangers player (Peter Lovenkrands).
Anecdote - "Pass it to Charlie""Pass it to Cherlie" became quite a familiar cry at Celtic matches, The cry was either directed to McNair or Dodds, whoever had possession when a passback opportunity presented itself. In this connection i heard the "Pass it to Cherlie" used in circumstances which set a great gallery of people laughing, it was at Troon. A footballers golf championship was in progress. McNair and a partner had driven off from the first tee, Alec had sent his ball into the bunker. I was one of the following crowd and so was Charlie Shaw. McNair found his ball hard up in the face of the bunker. He stood looking down at it, mashie in hand, wondering what he should do. He certainly could not advance. The gallery gathered round, watching in silence. Alec continued to concentrate, Not a word. Then from the back of the crowd came a voice -- "Pass it to Cherlie" That did it. The gallery guffawed, Even icicle McNair melted. Charlie Shaw in a spasm of uncontrolled laughter, fell into the bunker ! Alec took two to get out.
Saturday June 6th 1925
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|joebloggscity||Charlie Shaw Fact Check||1||Feb 6 2010, 8:19 PM EST by WeeShamrock|
Thread started: Feb 6 2010, 4:47 AM EST Watch
one thing to check.
the text says: "He had won four league titles (1914, 1917, 1919 and 1922) "
I don't think that's right, i believe he also won the medals for the league titles in 1915 & 1916 also.
Can someone confirm?
|BFCahill||Great to see Charlie here||2||Feb 6 2010, 3:34 AM EST by joebloggscity|
Thread started: Feb 5 2010, 5:02 PM EST Watch
Charlie Shaw just happens to be my great-grandfather. I've had the pleasure of visiting his home in Glasgow, along with the stadium, as well as his home in County Donegal, Ireland, where he and his family lived in the off-season. Wish could say he passed on his athletic skills to me. Thanks for posting.
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